Poker + Stackoverflow.com = Outflopped.com

Sunday, February 07, 2010

Poker theoreticians and PokerTracker/Hold'emManager users will definitely want to stop by Outflopped.com and pick up ~70 gigabytes (GB) of online poker hand histories covering Absolute Poker, Full Tilt, IPN, ONG, PokerStars, and Party.

While you're there, do yourself and the rest of the poker community a favor and sign up for an account. Powered by the same StackExchange engine that powers the (okay, arguably) most popular programmer Q&A site in the world, Outflopped.com is organized poker Q&A.

If that sounds like a sales pitch, it is. I'm not affiliated with Outflopped.com in any way, shape, or form; but I do have an ulterior (and selfish) motive here. I want Outflopped.com to succeed because I ask and answer dozens of poker-related questions a month, and Outflopped provides a formal and user-friendly mechanism for airing and resolving poker-related questions in a way that makes them easy to ask, easy to answer, easy to search for, and easy to link to. It's a resource I want, and it's a resource you should want.

It's like...

A giant candy store full of all the unanswered questions you always wondered about but never bothered to ask. Oh, and the candy is 100% free.

If you can dream it up, and if it's relevant to poker, you can ask it.

I know from experience how well the Outflopped.com discussion format works in other domains, like programming, and ever since StackOverflow.com went public I've been thinking somebody should do this for poker. Although traditional forums like Two Plus Two and PokerAI.org will remain the source for hard-hitting up-to-the-minute poker information—because that's what the traditional forum format encourages—Outflopped.com provides a different and complementary service.

  • Outflopped.com allows you to ask questions about poker without getting sniped at by a twelve-ring circus of demented leprechauns cartwheeling from the trees in crotch-hugging leotards and homemade Superman capes. You can ask a simple question or an obscure question without getting carpet-bombed and projectile-vomited into shag-carpeted oblivion with snarky rejoinders.
  • Outflopped.com rewards you for answering (and asking) questions with an engaging reputation system based on points, badges, and abilitites (such as the ability to edit other people's questions).
  • Outflopped.com doesn't force you to register or sign up for an account unless you want to and until you're ready.
  • Outflopped.com organizes questions into distinct keywords giving you a clean way to see all questions on a particular topic.
  • Outflopped.com exposes all questions and keywords via RSS allowing you to see new questions/answers as they roll in.

So I was happy when I got an email, a few months back, informing me that Outflopped.com was going live. Finally! The StackExchange model has been applied to many, many, many walks of life, from business travel to video gaming, but I think it's particularly well suited to poker. Poker inspires a freakishly large number of questions, some of which are complex and nuanced, almost all of which are helpful to people other than the person asking the question. Outflopped.com provides a pipeline for those questions, which would otherwise swamp a typical forum, where many questions (especially simple or off-topic ones) are regarded as "noise" and a violation of RTFM or RTFFAQ anyway.

I liked the format so much I left my hermit cave and signed up for an account.

And even though, as always, I stand before you today beholden to no human corkdangler, and even though I have zero connection with or vested interest in the site, I'm hoping you'll do the same. Because of all the questions I'd like to see asked on Outflopped.com...

Where the hell is everybody?

...isn't one of them. So stop by, say hello, unburden yourself of those burning questions, contribute some of that hard-won wisdom and studied technique, complete the circle, improvise, adapt to the environment, Darwin, shit happens, I Ching, whatever man, we gotta roll with it, before plunging back out into the poker wilderness to do battle with those pesky-but-profitable Rush Poker heathens. And I'll see you there. Lookin' like a fool, perchance, with your pants on the ground?

[Disclaimer: Needless to say, I'm not employed by or affiliated with Outflopped.com. I'm recommending it (Outflopped.com) because it's a useful site based on the Stackoverflow/StackExchange format of which I've been a long-time fan.]

Tags: Outflopped.com, online poker, poker news, poker

28 comment(s)

tl;dr version:

"Outflopped.com allows you to ask questions about poker without getting sniped at by a twelve-ring circus of demented leprechauns cartwheeling from the trees in crotch-hugging leotards and homemade Superman capes. You can ask a simple question or an obscure question without getting carpet-bombed and projectile-vomited into shag-carpeted oblivion with snarky rejoinders."

LOL.

A-hole.

Lookin like FOOL wit yo pants on the ground!!! =)

Ah Christ.

Wasn't aware of this site, thanks. StackOverflow is an excellent site, would be good to see this one take off too.

I agree that Outflopped.com is a good idea but it seems like the site wasn't properly launched. Right now there are a total of < 100 questions on the site. There should have been at least 1000 prior to launch.

I'll try it out when and if it ever gets enough traffic to justify the time.

America, FUCK YEAH!!!

"Outflopped.com allows you to ask questions about poker without getting sniped at by a twelve-ring circus of demented leprechauns cartwheeling from the trees in crotch-hugging leotards and homemade Superman capes. You can ask a simple question or an obscure question without getting carpet-bombed and projectile-vomited into shag-carpeted oblivion with snarky rejoinders."

....AWESOME!

F.U. 2P2.

"F.U. 2P2"

NSW_Rambo: I dont think the OP was taking aim at 2p2, he was taking aim at the trolls that infest typical Internet gaming forums including 2+2. He specifically mentioned 2+2 as being the best source.

You must be the pet troll assigned to this sector of the Internet.

Wow Mikhail, I wasn't trying to "play James Devlin". The FU to 2p2 was ALL mine. In fact, let me take credit for that one again. ALL mine.

It's amazing how many little fan boys like yourself come out of the woodwork to defend that community of lonely players still smarting from the memory of their lunch money being stolen so frequently they can't get past the memory of it. How hard is it to simply answer a new member's question in a simple and polite manner without hassling them for not reading the past five years of history on the world's most poorly organized forum first? And how horrible it is that a member with only 86 posts would ever question the validity of accepted 2p2 doctrine (even if only because they might not understand it). Heaven forbid some people in the world have enough of a life not to have reached the requisite 5 million post threshold to command the respect of the 2p2 "cool kids".

Hey, their lunch money won't get stolen on 2p2....people like them there! We're NON self-weighting! We may not talk much, but when we do talk, people listen!

Sieg Heil, the omnipotent 2p2 poobah!

It's amazing to me how the poker world is so full of people, just like you, who line up to lick their balls.

I bet your post count is respectable though....I'm sure there's a poker girl out there somewhere that will love you for your status.....but only once you get those next 2356 posts in and earn your 2p2 Letterman's Jacket. If you don't find your groupie on 2p2 perhaps you can go on ebay and buy a really pimp WOW 475th level Grand Wizard Dwarf-Mage to impress the girl of your dreams. After all, what do women like more than a guy with power and skills? But hey, in the mean time, you're sitting at the popular table. Breathe a sigh of relief, my friend. You're cool now.

Seriously though, don't think I was deliberately taking swing at your reality. We all respect you. We all listen to what you have to say. People do like you. We like you. We won't steal your lunch money. How could we even dream of it, with all your 2p2 street cred? Power and skills, bro. It's obvious what you've got...

Thanks for the heads up, that collection of hand histories is a GREAT resource & you just saved me some money.

Outflopped.com seems clean and responsive hopefully traffic will really take off this year. Stackoverflow.com is my go-to resource for programming, it'd be cool if OF could achieve the same thing for poker.

Also, to Mikhail and NSW_Rambo, I think you guys are missing the point. Outflopped.com complements 2+2 it doesn't compete with 2+2. Anymore than Stackoverflow "competes" with say, Coding Horror.

I was pleasantly surprised to find Coding the Wheel had followed me to Outflopped.com. I wanted to pass on the word that those hand histories were intended for poker researchers like me. The histories have had player names, websites, and even table numbers obscured. —I thought this was unnecessary until the the link was posted on Coding the Wheel showing what I know. Also some of the records may be missing hole card information (see my comment on the site).

P.S thank you James for helping me build a vb.net poker bot! Now if I could only get global hooking and a hand history collecting bot up.

P.S. the guys over at http://www.handhq.com/ were the ones who posted the poker records. So I'm giving them a big shout out like they asked!!

yo holmes....wtf? return a nigs's phone call why don't ya. yo, ain't you got no dignity yo? how you let him OUTPLAY you like that yo?

Testing

Longtime reader, first-time commenter. I'm pleased and surprised to see that you went with the WMD editor. I actually worked on a one-off implementation a while back. But I have to ask the age old question:

How are you handling XSS?

I briefly looked at Atwood's stuff on HTML sanitization but found it too messy to really get started with. Every solution is either too big, or too messy, or too small and undocumented.

Maybe you could do a post on the subject?

Love the new layout. Which version of the editor are you using?

@NSW: I couldn't agree more.

+1

More programming-related stuff, plz.

I agree that Outflopped.com is a good idea

Question #1: Please help answer this situation that I ran against someone. I am suggesting that its a split pot and the other person insists that Player 'A' wins. Here is the situation:Texas Holdem - In a straight situation where two players have the same high-end straight but one player (Player 'A') contributes two of his concealed cards in the straight and other player (player 'B') contributes one card from his concleaed cards. Is it still a split pot?

Question #2: I am suggesting that player 'A' wins and the other person insists that its a split pot. Texas Holdem - Community Cards: K 3 8 8 4 Player A: K 6 Player B: K 2 Who is the winner?

1: split pot

2: P1 wins as he has Kings and Eights with 6 kicker while P2 has Kings and Eights with 4 kicker

BTW, outflopped.com seems to be down?

Its backup

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Outflopped is dead, but now there's a poker stackexchange site! http://poker.stackexchange.com

Definitely worth checking out.

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